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Post by Larry
I get the following messages on my Dell precison m6600 since upgrading to Windows 10.
Intel Rapid Storage Technology
disk on port 3 - detected
Intel Rapid Storage Technology
disk on port 3 - removed
Anyone have any idea what these messages mean?
Thank you!

Disk on port 3, in it's current configuration which was probably set for
the previous OS, does not support Intel Rapid Storage Technology.

There are utilities to set this up (look on Dells support site), so that
it behaves as a SSD cache for your spinning hard disk. If your machine
without it isn't any different in performance, then you might want to
physically remove it.

I've removed loads of these (small 32GB) SSDs from HP laptops,
admittedly a corporate OS build didn't support it.

--
Adrian C

~misfit~

2016-08-23 13:04:41 UTC

Post by Larry
I get the following messages on my Dell precison m6600 since
Intel Rapid Storage Technology
disk on port 3 - detected
Intel Rapid Storage Technology
disk on port 3 - removed
Anyone have any idea what these messages mean?
Thank you!

Disk on port 3, in it's current configuration which was probably set
for the previous OS, does not support Intel Rapid Storage Technology.
There are utilities to set this up (look on Dells support site), so
that it behaves as a SSD cache for your spinning hard disk. If your
machine without it isn't any different in performance, then you might
want to physically remove it.
I've removed loads of these (small 32GB) SSDs from HP laptops,
admittedly a corporate OS build didn't support it.

Please elaborate Adrian. I have an HP Envy dv6 with a 3rd gen i7, 16GB RAM
and a FHD matte display that has one. It came with Win 8 and I installed Win
7 and Intel Rapid Storage Technology - which seems to work but won't
'accelerate' the only partition on the list - drive C:

I'd love to get it working with W7 as it's quite slow (5,400rpm HDD)
compared with how responsive it was when 'accelerated' in W8. Do you know if
Intel Rapid Storage Technology and SSD acceleration works with W7?

--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Adrian Caspersz

2016-08-23 18:33:21 UTC

Post by Adrian Caspersz
I've removed loads of these (small 32GB) SSDs from HP laptops,
admittedly a corporate OS build didn't support it.

Please elaborate Adrian. I have an HP Envy dv6 with a 3rd gen i7, 16GB RAM
and a FHD matte display that has one. It came with Win 8 and I installed Win
7 and Intel Rapid Storage Technology - which seems to work but won't
I'd love to get it working with W7 as it's quite slow (5,400rpm HDD)
compared with how responsive it was when 'accelerated' in W8. Do you know if
Intel Rapid Storage Technology and SSD acceleration works with W7?

Do a search on HP's support website for the exact documents and
supporting software for your machine, referred by part number, not
series (i.e. dv6). Yes, Windows 7 is supported.

http://download.intel.com/support/chipsets/imsm/sb/irst_user_guide.pdf

That link is a bit old, but goes into some detail how the RAID system is
setup from the BIOS, and will require non-data safe mucking about with
volumes and partitions.

Sorry, my experience is mostly getting rid of it!

--
Adrian C

~misfit~

2016-08-24 00:41:24 UTC

Post by Adrian Caspersz
I've removed loads of these (small 32GB) SSDs from HP laptops,
admittedly a corporate OS build didn't support it.

Please elaborate Adrian. I have an HP Envy dv6 with a 3rd gen i7,
16GB RAM and a FHD matte display that has one. It came with Win 8
and I installed Win 7 and Intel Rapid Storage Technology - which
seems to work but won't 'accelerate' the only partition on the list
- drive C: I'd love to get it working with W7 as it's quite slow
(5,400rpm HDD)
compared with how responsive it was when 'accelerated' in W8. Do you
know if Intel Rapid Storage Technology and SSD acceleration works
with W7?

Do a search on HP's support website for the exact documents and
supporting software for your machine, referred by part number, not
series (i.e. dv6). Yes, Windows 7 is supported.
http://download.intel.com/support/chipsets/imsm/sb/irst_user_guide.pdf
That link is a bit old, but goes into some detail how the RAID system
is setup from the BIOS, and will require non-data safe mucking about
with volumes and partitions.
Sorry, my experience is mostly getting rid of it!

Thanks Adrian, I'll check it out. Googling I got the inpression that W7
wasn't supported on this machine, the HP forums show lots of people using W7
drivers from similar HP machines. Also as I don't have a factory install I
have to turn off the UEFI part of the boot process and run with a very basic
BIOS that has very few options (and none regarding the SATA interface).

I'll read that Intel document and look further - the project has been on
hold for a while and I'm still using my older machine for now (which has a
Seagate "SSHD" with NAND on board).

Cheers,

~misfit~

2016-08-24 04:16:37 UTC

Post by Adrian Caspersz
I've removed loads of these (small 32GB) SSDs from HP laptops,
admittedly a corporate OS build didn't support it.

Please elaborate Adrian. I have an HP Envy dv6 with a 3rd gen i7,
16GB RAM and a FHD matte display that has one. It came with Win 8
and I installed Win 7 and Intel Rapid Storage Technology - which
seems to work but won't 'accelerate' the only partition on the list
- drive C: I'd love to get it working with W7 as it's quite slow
(5,400rpm HDD)
compared with how responsive it was when 'accelerated' in W8. Do you
know if Intel Rapid Storage Technology and SSD acceleration works
with W7?

Do a search on HP's support website for the exact documents and
supporting software for your machine, referred by part number, not
series (i.e. dv6). Yes, Windows 7 is supported.
http://download.intel.com/support/chipsets/imsm/sb/irst_user_guide.pdf
That link is a bit old, but goes into some detail how the RAID system
is setup from the BIOS, and will require non-data safe mucking about
with volumes and partitions.
Sorry, my experience is mostly getting rid of it!

Thanks Adrian, I'll check it out. Googling I got the inpression that
W7 wasn't supported on this machine, the HP forums show lots of
people using W7 drivers from similar HP machines. Also as I don't
have a factory install I have to turn off the UEFI part of the boot
process and run with a very basic BIOS that has very few options (and
none regarding the SATA interface).
I'll read that Intel document and look further - the project has been
on hold for a while and I'm still using my older machine for now
(which has a Seagate "SSHD" with NAND on board).

All sorted now - thanks!

When reading that Intel document I saw reference to NCQ and when I checked I
found that the HDD I'd installed W7 on (intending to clone to a bigger disk
if all went well) was an older SATA drive that didn't support NCQ. I just
did a test-clone to a different disk which *does* support NCQ and now I can
accelerate the drive* using Intel Rapid Storage Technology.

[*] I found it odd that I can only accelerate the whole drive rather than a
partition. As this HDD is larger than the first one I fitted I made a second
partition on it for data and that certainly doesn't need accelerating. I
hope that the algorithms are smart enough to only accelerate frequently
accessed data. The laptop can take a 12.5mm high HDD so I've been
considering putting a 2TB HDD in there (one day - finances allowing) and, as
the thing is so powerful using it ro replace both my 'everyday' highest-spec
15" T60 ThinkPad *and* my desktop that I use for light gaming.

It's a shame that the Envy dv6 7215TX doesn't have a dock option as I almost
always use my T60 in a dock with lots of stuff like printer and externel
HDDs always connected via ports at the back. The Envy does have 3 x USB3
ports but they're in places where I wouldn't want cables constantly
connected. :-/ Oh well, that's what I get for being poor HDDand not being
able to afford an Elitebook.

The Envy came to me as a repair / data recovery 'job', it had overheated,
cooked it's RAM and HDD and the erstwhile owner was desperate to get her
data back. I managed to recover the data before the HDD finally stopped
spinning and she offered me the laptop in lieu of payment. I told her that,
if she gave me a week or so to evaluate it and see if I can ressutect it I
might be in a position to give her some money for it but she was happy for
me to have it as she'd been quoted a lot more than it was worth to get her
data back elsewhere.

I convinced her to not allow herself to be 'upsold' on a replacement as she
was sold this powerful beast of a thing when all she wanted to do was light
wordprocessing and browsing. As she used it on the go it's no wonder that it
ingested so much dust that it choked itself (it didn't help that the factory
default was 'fan always runs' in BIOS and up to 100% CPU / GPU on battery in
Windows).

But I digress ...

Thanks for that document again, it prompted me to check if the HDD was
NCQ-capable.

~misfit~

2016-08-25 01:17:30 UTC

Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
[snipped]

Post by ~misfit~
All sorted now - thanks!
When reading that Intel document I saw reference to NCQ and when I
checked I found that the HDD I'd installed W7 on (intending to clone
to a bigger disk if all went well) was an older SATA drive that
didn't support NCQ. I just did a test-clone to a different disk which
*does* support NCQ and now I can accelerate the drive* using Intel
Rapid Storage Technology.

But it's never that bloody simple for me!

Today it won't boot and, on Googling the model of the HDD (HTS541616J9SA00)
*and* "NCQ" I see numerous mentions of improperly implimented NCQ and page
titles such as "One more Hitachi HDD to add to NCQ Blacklist".

Yesterday I just Googled the HDD model number, checked the spec sheet and
saw it was claimed to support NCQ. I only hope that a clone copy of this HDD
onto a better HDD will work as I deleted the partitions on the source HDD
when all seemed to go well.

We can also add into the mix the stupidly-designed SATA-to-planar cable that
this laptop uses is getting flakey - I had to re-seat it a few times
yesterday (and tried again after errors).

http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03291169

The SATA connector was designed to be a universal connector that can handle
multiple insertion cycles. I've had nothing but trouble with laptops that
insist on having a connector between the HDD and planar over the years -
you'd think they'd learn! This one is particularly fiddly and fragile.

Cross your fingers for me. I'll likely have to steal a HDD out of another
working laptop to use so I'll need to do at least two clone cycles to see if
I can finally get this thing running right.

~misfit~

2016-08-30 03:10:35 UTC

Post by ~misfit~
[snipped]

But it's never that bloody simple for me!
Today it won't boot and, on Googling the model of the HDD
(HTS541616J9SA00) *and* "NCQ" I see numerous mentions of improperly
implimented NCQ and page titles such as "One more Hitachi HDD to add
to NCQ Blacklist".
Yesterday I just Googled the HDD model number, checked the spec sheet
and saw it was claimed to support NCQ. I only hope that a clone copy
of this HDD onto a better HDD will work as I deleted the partitions
on the source HDD when all seemed to go well.
We can also add into the mix the stupidly-designed SATA-to-planar
cable that this laptop uses is getting flakey - I had to re-seat it a
few times yesterday (and tried again after errors).
http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03291169
The SATA connector was designed to be a universal connector that can
handle multiple insertion cycles. I've had nothing but trouble with
laptops that insist on having a connector between the HDD and planar
over the years - you'd think they'd learn! This one is particularly
fiddly and fragile.
Cross your fingers for me. I'll likely have to steal a HDD out of
another working laptop to use so I'll need to do at least two clone
cycles to see if I can finally get this thing running right.

Installing a 500 GB Seagate Momentus 7200.4 (which I took from my spare T60
after cloning the OS partition onto the 160 GB Hitachi) fixed the problem.
Now the SSD cache is working as designed. :-)

Adrian Caspersz

2016-08-30 20:20:53 UTC

Post by ~misfit~
The SATA connector was designed to be a universal connector that can
handle multiple insertion cycles. I've had nothing but trouble with
laptops that insist on having a connector between the HDD and planar
over the years - you'd think they'd learn! This one is particularly
fiddly and fragile.
Cross your fingers for me. I'll likely have to steal a HDD out of
another working laptop to use so I'll need to do at least two clone
cycles to see if I can finally get this thing running right.

Installing a 500 GB Seagate Momentus 7200.4 (which I took from my spare T60
after cloning the OS partition onto the 160 GB Hitachi) fixed the problem.
Now the SSD cache is working as designed. :-)

Congratulations ;)

--
Adrian C

~misfit~

2016-09-03 00:01:04 UTC

Installing a 500 GB Seagate Momentus 7200.4 (which I took from my
spare T60 after cloning the OS partition onto the 160 GB Hitachi)
fixed the problem. Now the SSD cache is working as designed. :-)

Congratulations ;)

Thanks Adrian. :-) It's always good when you get something to work the way
it's designed to.

Larry

2016-09-11 19:30:58 UTC

Disk on port 3, in it's current configuration which was probably set for
the previous OS, does not support Intel Rapid Storage Technology.
There are utilities to set this up (look on Dells support site), so that
it behaves as a SSD cache for your spinning hard disk. If your machine
without it isn't any different in performance, then you might want to
physically remove it.
I've removed loads of these (small 32GB) SSDs from HP laptops,
admittedly a corporate OS build didn't support it.
--
Adrian C

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for your response. Not sure I follow your second paragraph. What and how would I remove?

Larry

Larry

2016-09-11 20:31:47 UTC

Disk on port 3, in it's current configuration which was probably set for
the previous OS, does not support Intel Rapid Storage Technology.
There are utilities to set this up (look on Dells support site), so that
it behaves as a SSD cache for your spinning hard disk. If your machine
without it isn't any different in performance, then you might want to
physically remove it.
I've removed loads of these (small 32GB) SSDs from HP laptops,
admittedly a corporate OS build didn't support it.
--
Adrian C

Hello Adrian,

Thank you for your response. I am not sure I follow your second paragraph. What would I physically remove?

Larry

~misfit~

2016-09-12 06:46:51 UTC

Post by Larry